Not until she tires of you, or some fit or other hits the shan. Then you'll see a different wifey. I've had nothing but bad experiences with Japanese women, They are like sirens that cause ships to crash upon the rocks. Their pretty faces, feminine charms and apparent modesty the traits western men find so attractive and yet devoid in the outspoken, Doc-Martin-wearing, assertive western women turn our heads and lead us like moths into the flames.
Instead of indicating neediness or unrealistic expectations, what this statistic suggests is men aren't necessary. Until you get married? Until a man completed "its" mission to make offspring.
In a love hotel with my last girlfriend, she'd come out with 'don't touch me' - yes they are confused alright I concur with all the negative posts, after 16 years of marriage to my beautiful Japanese wife I can state with confidence she only married me for my ability to make money, kids and a chance to leave Japan. She can be so selfish at times I despair then acts all sweet and innocent around others, constantly bitches, makes the kids life a misery with her Asian tiger behaviour.
I find solace with my mates also who married these lovely girls who all changed after baby number 2 dropped and we became surplus to requirements.
One mate has it normal but in my experience it's not the norm buyer beware. Cash and Babies is what they really want and never having to do a stroke of work. I'm always confused by these lists. Is this "10 things she wants from a man" who she has passionate sex with, or the things from a man that she expects to be a provider to her. Women put these two types of men into different mental categories and treat each of them completely differently.
The unfortunate thing with relationships is that both people enter them for purely selfish reasons anyway. You might have found yourself giving your partner more than you were really prepared to give through pressure applied on you, and are now feeling ripped off. Knowing that now, what's one the one female need that matches one of your needs that you have no problem giving them an endless supply of?
When you answer that question, make sure that it's the ONLY thing you give them, then watch how your self-esteem comes back, and how relationships become that much more manageable. My very good sir, you are a wise man indeed. I've yet to meet any man - western or Japanese - who reports that life with a Japanese wife is anything other than a constant barrage of ingratitude.
I have been with my good lady wife since and we married in in Japan. She has never acted all sweet and innocent and has always made as much effort, maybe more than myself to make the relationship work.
Problem with many western men who marry Japanese is that they are marrying what they imagine a Japanese woman to be not with reality. All marriages take work, usually the western man will not live up to the standards expected , most i have met here cheat and have pre teen like toilet humour attributes.
Great, falseflagsteve, if you're happy then I'm happy for you. Maybe you are the exception that proves the rule. All I can say is that my experiences have been extremely negative. I find them shallow and dishonest. I'd think it was just me if I didn't know so many men who are unhappy with their Japanese spouses. First they want your English, then they want your ring, then they want your money and then they want your kids After that, you're just in the way.
Is this bad experience of Japanese wife only true once you marry them. Or just a question of degree? My experience and my comrades in Japanese brides was after baby no. As I said one mate has a normal relationship with his Mrs, but for the rest of us it's like all our wives behave the same. I suppose we don't live upto their expectations but the lack of affection even towards the kids amazes me. It's all push push push. Guess it's time to fight back Marriage is tough and I'mno quitter but it's depressing she can do no wrong in her mind, all issues are mine, never hers.
Daughter doesn't like her and my boy calls her the beast LOL. Anyhow l'm just on a rant at the moment as she's made the daughter so depressed school phoned up last week to call us in ans say she needs counselling as the mother has made her so anxious about her academic achievements.
That's my Lot, hey it was great first 5 years just don't have kids. Thank you , mates, for the warnings. I'll just have " mutual " fun with the J ladies then. By the way, is it against the law in Japan to " pretend " you'll marry them eventually? Yep, the article is for before the mariage relations for sure! It is the same in most any country money money money money money money money money money money money money money money there is more than 10 actually as it is never enough for them.
I agree with the negative posts here. I married a Jap woman and have two beautiful kids which are with me in the US now after a big pain in the ass.
She was a lazy self centered woman with no ambition other than shopping and watching Korean soap operas then projecting it into our lives. I had to support her lazy family in Japan though they were all very nice to me but that only goes so far.
I would probably be nice to a philanthropist that sent me money with NSA. My own fault for allowing it but that is over now and I dont have regrets but I do have experience. She got the paid for condo in Japan and it was worth it so she can live without rent and can just work for food. I am glad for that and she deserves it for being a good mother but that is the end of it. Sent her back to Japland and am living happily ever after.
If you don't go to work and bring home a paycheck for your wife to spend, there goes your marriage! Id do that to them and more.
This is a very important and serious for a man. Girls are very sensitive, lovely and sweet. The mind of a man and a woman are completely different. As beautiful as Japanese women are, the most beautiful in my opinion , they are still women and have the same needs as every other woman unless they are from some other planet.
So no matter what culture a woman has grown up with in a relationship people change. I know most Asian women do not share the same humor as Westerners and that's fine but you have to understand that if you are seeking a Japanese or any Asian woman, which I am, you can work through that afterwards. I always have preferred Asian women because I think they are as perfect as you can get in a woman physically and mentally. However I don't ever expect to meet a Japanese woman because it is extremely difficult.
I know most Asian women do not like American men or white men for that fact, oh well I can dream, at least I have that left. I am still doubting that "Is the research true??? I never, never hear someone say these answer in here. And I think it's sounds strange why who has to make sure "don't talk"??
I think it's always depends with the situation who wants to talk or not, and if a woman doesn't want to talk, then, who just say to the partner, "I'm sorry, I have a not good mood now" or something like that. Wow that is nothing, very easy to do. You have not seen expectations of USA women.
Those would kill you instantly. Go read some on dating sites. That's what I did! I ran and never looked back! But I did not go to Japan either, because too many weird and selfish women there.
Use your Facebook account to login or register with JapanToday. By doing so, you will also receive an email inviting you to receive our news alerts. A mix of what's trending on our other sites. From here on, the list gets a little more needy. Here are numbers four through I would want him to take care of me when I get sick. I would want him to sneak up behind me and suddenly give me a hug. I would want him to play with my hair. I would want him to cover me with a blanket when I fall asleep. I would want him to arrange surprises for me.
Goo Rankings Read more stories from RocketNews Bringing new ideas to life in Tokyo An enjoyable lifestyle in an elegant modern residence. What about her ears? Powder puff article designed to provoke an emotional response. Number 4, however, is the nightmare for me. That's what they say now. Wait until you get that ring on there. You mean this list? The elephant in the room says 1 is Financial Security. I am surprised that the things my wife and I share as our top points are not here.
We are comfortable with each other and can just be ourselves with each other. We trust each other and know that we will be there for each other in a pinch. We make each other laugh.
Goofy fun and a good laugh can fix just about anything ladies. And do not underestimate the power of random living room dancing. Stressful day, turn on some music and go nuts.
This started spontaneously with us and has kept on going for a decade now. As silly as it may look or sound, it kills off stress and makes us both laugh and smile. You cannot undervalue the ability to make each other smile. If you can't make each other laugh and smile, give it up now you won't survive years together.
Like the old Japanese saying "a pretty face will fade, a funny face will carry you for a lifetime. According to this list the perfect man would be The more I look at this list the more I think how zurui some Japanese women can be.
They give these pure and innocent answers to some survey but the reality is totally different. I'd say that stacks up pretty well with what most women would say. Youth is so wasted on the young The list of what a man wants from a single Japanese woman is one tenth as long. As long as she doesn't complaine in that pseudo-kawaii squeaky voice, I think I can handle that. Someone who is good at making love to them Yes, until you get married to them.
Wonder what kind of Rag "Goo" is. Probably, something aimed at High-School aged people? The same opportunities for overseas travel were available in Nagasaki. The linkage between Kyushu coal exports and Nagasaki as the starting point for rural poor women to migrate informally abroad is visible in the following example.
Forewarned by the governor of Nagasaki, the Japanese consul requested the local colonial authorities to organize an inspection of the vessel for thirty Japanese women allegedly hidden onboard. An extensive search by the Hong Kong harbour authorities revealed thirty-eight stowaways: In his statement to the marine magistrate and master attendant, Edward Porter, the master of the SS Macduff , confessed to having personally taken ten women and three men on board once the ship had left the harbour of Kuchinotsu:.
Would I pick them up? We passed close by the boat and stopped and picked them up. The women and the procurers used stealth to go abroad to evade the numerous measures the Japanese government implemented to prevent them from leaving Japan or taking up work abroad. In Minami Sadatsuke, Japanese consul for Hong Kong, came to an informal agreement with the Hong Kong register general to restrict the number of Japanese women working in registered public brothels to fifty-two women at one time.
During their meeting, the consul would instruct the women that they were prohibited from registering as prostitutes and that the best course of action would be to return home. The consul would then proceed to ascertain if the women had any legal guardian in Hong Kong so that they could be informed of their circumstances and returned to their care.
In cases where the women interviewed had no legal guardian, and lacked money for a return fare to Japan, Minami placed them temporarily in the Wanchai Lock hospital, while he tried to identify family members in Japan who would pay repatriation expenses. The Japanese consuls noticed that the Hong Kong colonial authorities were reluctant to intercept and search ships unless they were almost certain that they would find women hidden abroad. The colonial authorities did not want to obstruct the movement of ships entering and leaving the harbour unless necessary.
Japanese-run inns, restaurants, and taverns relied on the flow of Japanese women coming through the port for their livelihood. Ships departing from Kyushu carrying coal from the Takashima and Miike mines and bound for city ports in Southeast Asia were not the only means of travel available to the women.
By the turn of the century, the increase in postal, passage, and cargo services between Japan and the rest of the world had generated new migratory routes. In his petition dated 15 September , requesting the expulsion of Japanese prostitutes from Thursday Island, Sasaki Shigetoshi, a former samurai and community leader of the Japanese labourers on the same island, informed the Japanese foreign ministry that Japanese men and women connected with prostitution.
With the expansion of shipping routes from Japan to Southeast Asia, the means by which the women migrated overseas also changed. It was common to see groups of young Japanese women traveling in the third-class section of Japanese ships en route abroad. In May—June of the same year, with the assistance of the local colonial authorities, Tanaka investigated the means by which women travelled to Singapore.
Tanaka found that over one thousand women had made their way to Singapore in the last year with the aim of working as prostitutes, an average of around twenty arrivals per week. Tanaka elaborated on his findings.
The first method of transporting women to Singapore had been the most prevalent. Recently, however, there had been a decline in this type of practice. The authorities in Singapore attributed this decline to a combination of reasons: Tanaka, on the other hand, believes that the cause was more the marked decline in the number of ships carrying coal from Japan to Singapore, as Japanese coal was now channelled to the domestic market to meet the energy demands of a rapidly growing post—Russo-Japanese War economy.
Accordingly, the second method was the most common and had the highest rate of success. Tanaka suggests that this was due to the laxity of harbour officials in screening passengers. The third practice was allegedly a recent development that was used mainly by women from the Kish u region Wakayama prefecture. Tanaka concludes his report by stating that the information collected by the British colonial authorities identified Moji as the port from which the highest number of women began their journey to Singapore, followed by Kuchinotsu and Kobe.
The number of women leaving from Nagasaki, on the other hand, had reportedly fallen. Their role was to guide others to overseas locations in exchange for money. To do this successfully, the procurer had to be familiar with things, people, and events in dispersed and often distant geographical locations. People seeking work overseas depended on the procurer for direction on two levels: I do not contest these arguments, but do wish to modify them.
What I argue is a more complicated story. The localized knowledge that circulated in rural communities in western Kyushu—in the form of rumour, hearsay, gossip, and letters from relatives abroad—was formative in grounding the experience of living abroad in truth claims that made travel to locations overseas plausible and attractive. The oral nature of this localized knowledge means that it has no formal archive or discernible events to mark its existence—but this does not mean that this knowledge was inconsequential.
To recover this knowledge, I turn to contemporaneous narratives of observers who deplored the procurement of the young women of these rural communities, but who also reveal them to have been agents and not merely victims. These forms of oral transmissions point to forgotten social practices steeped in the world of the everyday, which allowed the possibility of finding work abroad.
Procurers, female as well as male, based overseas, generally avoided returning to Japan if they could find a third party to do their bidding. Only when they were unable to mobilize or lost their connections in Japan would the procurers return, usually to their place of origin, where they would wander from village to village. Procurers were able to win over young women by speaking from experience when they made claims about life overseas. The women did not undertake travel overseas innocently; they entertained various assumptions—some of which were valid and some not—concerning what life was like abroad, which prompted them to leave Japan.
The successful procurer spoke to those assumptions. A pamphlet written in by a Japanese Christian organization aimed at eradicating Japanese prostitution abroad hints at how, in rural areas where many of the women originated, the local women were highly informed about what—in terms of work, economic, and cultural possibilities—might be available to them in specified destinations overseas.
The monthly wage Yokoyama promised was an enormous amount for the rural poor when one considers that a male day labourer would earn less than half this amount in a month. Due to expense and the danger of being caught, whenever possible, brothel owners tried to establish stable connections with third parties to ensure a constant supply of women to replace those who had ended their term of contract, became ill, or died.
One ploy was to use former employees, such as Yokoyama Kikuno, returning to Japan on the completion of their contracts, to recruit other women. In return for a handling charge, certain agencies would mediate for young women in finding employment overseas in such positions as domestic servants, waitresses, and child carers.
Households and families living on the periphery of these ports, alerted by the gossip of the returnees and the numerous stories found in newspapers concerning the money to be made overseas, would send their daughters to these agencies to find work.
Women from Kyushu did not migrate overseas blindly but tactically, following the footsteps of those who preceded them, with the aim of making the best of a bad situation, finding work, making money, and hopefully striking it rich. In her statement to the Hong Kong authorities, Onio revealed that at strategic points along the route she took to Hong Kong, she gained new social knowledge through exchanges with other intermediaries that helped her to proceed. The point to note here is that the forms of knowledge Onio accessed and utilized in her efforts to migrate overseas points were steeped in the world of the everyday.
Letters from relatives or conversations with people who had been overseas, were formative in grounding the experience of living overseas in truth-claims that made travel to such locations plausible and attractive. Moreover, the presence of coal-ships in the harbour, and the many groups of people who worked at the harbour loading, cleaning, or maintaining the ships, formed an ensemble of local, but, nonetheless, effective and practical allies with the knowledge and resources to enable the women to migrate overseas.
The dynamics of the underground economy revolving around the brokering of Japanese women was revealed in detail by an investigation compiled by Hong Kong consul Inoue Kizaburo in the summer of The impetus for the investigation was allegations made by local Japanese businesspersons against the Nagasaki police force accusing them of abetting the trafficking of Japanese women to Hong Kong and the Straits Settlements.
Furthermore, six of these seven women came with the consent of their parents. As for the three women out of ten who did possess proper travel documents, they had been obtained by bribing prefectural officials. It was customary for the procurer to reach an agreement with the respective parents in advance over the amount of money they were to collect for the sale of their daughter.
The procurer usually collected between seventy and one hundred yen from each sale, as commission for having guided the women during their journey out of Japan. The procurer also took out the following expenses from the sale of the women: A further fifteen yen was deducted for traveling expenses. It also maps out an informal economy, which profited the predominantly male actors who participated: There are recorded instances of the constabulary giving up their work and turning their hand to smuggling women overseas.
The arrangements for financing the journey were organized in such a way as to work against the woman. The reason for this seems to be connected with the credit of the procurer. Most brokers had to borrow heavily to finance their operations, often at high rates of interest. A missive by Miyagawa Kyujiro, Japanese consul of Hong Kong, to the foreign minister provides testimony to this fact.
The subterranean economies and social practices involved in the informal migration of Japanese abroad hint at another aspect of the world inhabited by the rural poor. The women were members of a larger transient community that transgressed linguistic and national boundaries, shaped by the rhythms of abundance and scarcity found in agricultural production.
In the social territory occupied by the rural poor, the labor of children was a resource to be sought during cycles of abundance and shed when the consumption of the household had to be reduced during times of scarcity. As previously mentioned, as early as the eighteenth century the rural poor of the Amakusa and Shimabara regions migrated to Nagasaki in search of work.
The strategy of migrating abroad to escape dire poverty was asserted in an interview by a woman from the Shimabara region who had migrated overseas to find work at the turn of the twentieth century.
He sustained himself and family by the little money his wife and children brought in, and from the increasingly resentful benevolence of his relatives.
The social ambitions the father nourished for his family were limited. His only demand on his wife and children was work. To make ends meet S-san was sent to work as a domestic servant to a local merchant in her early teens. She continued working there until she was sixteen, the year her mother died. The wages she received were not enough to sustain her father, three younger siblings, and herself, let alone pay for any repairs to the house they were living in, which was more like an open hovel than a house, hardly offering any protection from the elements.
The following night, S-san and her sister were smuggled onboard different ships anchored in Kuchinotsu. On her arrival at the brothel, she was placed in the care of an older woman a native of a village just east of Shimabara, with whom S-san was faintly acquainted. The woman was the eldest daughter of a well-to-do peasant family.
She and her two younger sisters had left their village to work as sex labourers in Singapore. After working for two years in the brothel, S-san was bought out of her debt by a young English man working for a big rubber plantation company on the Malaysian peninsular.
The other interview was carried out in the summer of The subject was K-san, a resident of Ushibukai, Shimo-Amakusa. K-san was born around thirty years later than S-san, but as her life narrative reveals, the older forms of labor organized around the reproduction of the household still persisted.
K-san first left her home at the age of twelve or thirteen to work in the spinning mills in Osaka. After five years of service at the mills, she returned home. Within a few months, she obtained a job as a child-carer komori in Nagasaki through an intermediary in the village.
Two years later, around —36, at the age of about twenty-one, she left for Shanghai, together with five other women. In Shanghai, she worked as a chambermaid at a Japanese hotel located in the Japanese settlement.
In contrast to the experience of S-san, K-san had little or no contact with people of other nationalities because the Japanese community in Shanghai was both well established and insular. In his classic text Wasurerareta Nihonjin The Forgotten Japanese , folklorist Miyamoto Tsuneichi tells of the practices of his own rural household in Yamaguchi prefecture and the transmittance of wealth along matrilineal lines. In eastern Japan, the father is the key figure in transmitting culture and wealth.
In western Japan, familial and communal authority is commanded more by age than gender, thus offering women greater authority in the household and the possibility for the matrilineal transmission of wealth. It seems that in Shimabara and Amakusa regions at least, in the construction of social personage for the women from these areas, becoming a migrant labourer was one of the prescribed forms of conduct.
In both regions, village leaders did not try to prevent the local women from leaving. Indeed, in some circumstances they encouraged the women to find specific forms of work overseas. A majority of them were women who engaged in sex work. Women of the Amakusa region were required by cultural convention to produce half of their dowry. The perceived social value and marriage potential of the women increased directly in relation to the amount of money they earned and remitted.
Moreover, the social status of the family itself within the local community increased according to the wealth and status of the employer and the amount of remittance received: Although there were many women from the Amakusa Islands who were not fully informed by their parents - or persons recruiting them for work abroad - that they were being indentured into overseas brothels, many others evidently understood the nature of the work required. There is evidence that, at times, the parents mediated in these negotiations.
A young schoolteacher sent to a village on the Amakusa Islands for practical experience wrote that:. An evil custom of this village is that they do not see prostitution as shameful. In the surrounding villages too, prostitution is regarded as a vocation. Moreover, what is extraordinary is that people with a good living follow this practice. If anything, these people treat those who do not engage in prostitution with scorn and ridicule.
According to this observer, whom we can assume to be knowledgeable, in the case of the women of the Amakusa and Shimabara regions, it seems sex work was perceived as just another form of labor, without the attachment of stigma. To illustrate this point, I turn to Sasaki Shigetoshi, a former low-class samurai involved in a Japanese migrant labor enterprise on Thursday Island, Queensland. In his petition to Tokyo, Sasaki describes how he appealed to the better nature of the brothel owners and women to cease working the brothels and how his best intentions came to nought.
It is worth quoting at length:. At times, we turn to the [brothel] owners and remonstrate, exhorting them to cease their occupation and to change to another line of work.
Not only do they turn deaf ears to our remonstrations, it often happens that they turn around and rebut those giving advice, saying things such as:. You boors do talk a lot of rubbish. From the time we left Japan, let alone now when we are standing on foreign soil, you have no grounds to point an accusing finger even if you had the authority of the Japanese government behind you. I see no particular reason why I should change what I do.
Now, money talks in the world. No matter how base the occupation, if I can live the rest of my life in my own home in comfort, why should I concern myself? What matter to me the fortunes of the nation? Yet, you demand a lot. What you advise, we will not do. Then, there are those amongst us, who turn to the women and advise them to become upright and honest, and to return to their homes in Japan as quickly as possible.
The majority of these women are extremely simple and know no honour. Hardly any of them listen to the advice given. They feign unconcern and reply:.
Thank you for your gracious concern. Your words are fit for the innocent girls living back home who know nothing about the world. However, for ignorant women such as us who have crossed the open seas and have come to a foreign land thousands of miles away, your sermons are useless—like chanting sutras to a scarecrow. In Japan, poor people like us have sweat on our brow night and day working like beasts of burden. Far from having the wherewithal to cook our daily meals, we barely have that to rinse our mouths.
Now that we are living overseas and engaged in such a profession, as for things heavy we pick up nothing more than a knife or fork. All our wishes are respected. We have all that we desire. What could add to our happiness? We do, alas, regret most profoundly not to have been born daughters to such gentlemen as you.
Sasaki vehemently objects to the existence of the brothels as it indicates a hatred for hard toil and a delight in relaxation, which erodes social order, and as such, the polity of Japan, for without the latter the former could not exist. As Sasaki laments, it is not only the humiliation, but. Also, in relation to overseas commercial, agricultural and other enterprises, in political comparison to the Chinese, we Japanese are exceedingly inferior now because of the display of the likes of these filthy women If we [Japanese] want to exaggerate [our superiority over the Chinese] by means of our Japanese nation being the England of the East, the first thing that should be initiated is the eradication of unsightly women of this sort.
In his objections, Sasaki formulates a direct equation where good economic order is the prerequisite of political power. For the brothel owners and the women, the acquisition of money was an end in itself if it ensured the maintenance and continuity of the household.
The labor of household members was organized around the need for the household to ensure its survival. For them, work as a prostitute abroad was inherently undifferentiated from work as an agricultural labourer in Japan: In this instance, sex work was preferred, portrayed as being physically easier and more amenable to daily existence as far as food and clothing were concerned.
The obligation to ensure the continuity of the household points to intimate and integral relations between daily existence and forms of worship and customary belief. In the cosmology inhabited by the women, time and work were informed by duties of the living toward the dead. The household was an inheritance transmitted by the ancestors to the present, and the continuation of the household by the present generation to the next was an expression of worship and respect.
Work that secured the permanence of the household in the temporal order of the living was also an activity that continued the collective work of generating life in the future, and as such, an act of respect and fulfilment of obligation to parents and ancestors. On the level of the individual, the lay Buddhist beliefs common in the region of Amakusa Islands did not see commercial sex as eternally polluting the soul.
In the s, it was still exceedingly common to see, lining the walls of the shrines and temples of Amakusa Islands and Shimabara peninsular, in large numbers, the names of the local women working overseas who had remitted donations specifically for the upkeep of their family temple or shrine.
It would be overly simplistic to assert that the rural women who engaged in prostitution did not feel ambivalence about the sexual and moral conduct prescribed by Sasaki Shigetoshi or the young schoolteacher that came to teach in the Amakusa region.
Rather, the issue at hand is the rediscovery of a struggle between two competing sets of social beliefs about what it means to be a woman and a member of a community.
On the local level, the women gained greater social capital and responsibility through the fulfilment of their duties in the maintenance and the survival and material development of their households and local communities.
The conflict, though, lay at the general and collective level of the nation. In state-led programs of nation-building, which emphasized values of chastity and female adolescent dependency as the general rules of progress to which all Japanese had to adhere if Japan was to meet the dictates of social advancement, there was no leeway for the women of Amakusa and Shimabara to continue working as migrant sex workers abroad.
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